Stop all this nonesense of starting anti piracy course, CD etc but make it mandatory to place minimum 3 security personnel with arms everytime ship transitted in piracy infested area without being on mercy of owner, charterer or manning office for security guards employment.

armed guards or supply ammunition on board. no more course pls.

we need me to put me in one of this ships armed and ready for the the pirates

To keep arm guards is the best and safest optins to minimize risk.

the only solution is armed gaurds on board. pirates are crazy people, they dont understand anything. pirates will only run back when they see armed guards.

Anti-Piracy course , a CD , this is time pass man. Unless the seafarers unite and refuse to sail in pirates infested areas things will not change much. Is ISF/MUI/NUSI ready to stand by the seafarers on this.

There should be world combine effort to kill all pirates ..by searching all mother vessel and hijack all mother vessel having any sign of activity involved in piracy.....

Piracy has reached to its extent, The courses on anti piracy will only help seafarers to mentally stable in adverse condition, but in order to fight piracy and be safe, it is mandatory to have onboard sufficient number of armed guards. Most of retired indian navy sailors could be employed.

so many countrys navy will not be able to fix the problem but this course will solve the problem!! another rubbies idea to drain sailors money!!

an alert had been sent out in june that pirate boats were sighted 30 miles off trivandrum !!!!! own vsl sailed from goa 3 july southbound, no sighting of naval/coastguard vsls despite alert- courses are for horses,.more constructive methods need to be deployed, not courses

Need of the hour is to have armed guards on board,pep talks from owners and manning agents is not going to help.of late pirates started killing seafarers.

It is always the sailor who is the receiving end for any thing and now instead of Finding an aggressive and everlasting solution by the IMO to deadly Piracy, we are asked to learn how to hide and protect ourselves from the ruthless pirates which is spreading to all other regions.

Antipiracy course is joke of suggestion. You can not handle crimnals by teaching them bible or doing course. Remember only iron cuts iron. Please do not play jokes on such serious issues.Put some retired soldiers on ships as AB & arm them or whole shipping will suffer.

instead of courses why dont you people deploy more cost guard in that area.after signing off there are so many courses and now anti-piracy course.after all sailors are human they too have to spend some time with their families.

actions speak louder than words... so pls act, time for round table confrences is over..its good atleast this burning issue has sneaked their ears but still i dont see anything happening on ground level.. firehoses v/s AK47 .. thats like zimbawe v/s australia in cricket.

Think about helpless sailor and their family which really face the problem. I was continuous on that route it is horrible to family which lost peace of mind with no fault.with out full security and gun power you cannot fight,you have to fight for your right no other means,it all table talk.

Atleast 5 armed guard (approved international agency) with latest weapons should board the vessel in the last port and can be disembarked in the next port, if she intends to pass through piracy prone area. This should be made as a statutory requirement under IMO.

I am on regular run to GOA area.The moment the vessel enters Arabian sea,all crew become hopeless.Life becomes like wolf and goat.Theory is no more applicable. In fact we have taken two times(6men) security guards to survives.But they are also not trustworthy.Piravy must end

already sailors are so much of burdened with other company courses and now adding anti piracy course, better to stay on ship and company not to go home !!!!!!this is life of sailors now a days.

Developing an Anti-Piracy Course is an excellent idea. We can even develop an Anti-Intrusion course for people living along the Indo- China / Indo - Pak border, give one CD each to all the residents of border areas and do away with the BSF / ITBP/ Army which is presently deployed there

TAKE MEASURES EARLY .....BEFORE ITS TOO LATE FOR INDIAN SHIPPING INDUSTRY & SEAFARERES.....YOU KNOW IT VERY WELL.....SOS

If the course is going to be dealing with Handling fire hoses, we learnt it in FPFF and AFF Courses and if it is all about "zig zag or evasive manoueuvres", SMS course would suffice, we practical solutions to the problems and institutes and bench warmers utilising the oppurtunity to squeeze out more

SHOULD MAKE COMPULSION FOR COMPANIES TO PROVIDE PROPER ANTISEDANTS FOR TAKING PROPER PASSIVE MEASURES WHEN TRANSITING GOA OR INDIAN OCEAN. FORMER SECURITY GUARDS SHOULD BE TRAINED AND ARMED SECURITY FORCES SHOULD BE EMPLOYED AS ACTIVE MEASURES. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS TERRORISTS EYEING TANKERS.

keep 4 ferocious dogs on board for immediate attack on pirates on deck with handler on remote control

companies now a days introduced 4 to 5 armed guards,it was a great relief when we were crossing pirates zone in somalia,citadel door is good idea practically it started on a ship,also piracy kits also morally supports us,but then internatioal body should interfere in heavy manner to deal with somal

how long this threat will be going on? SEAFARERS have now a days became SUFFERERS due to this particular piracy threat.

Well said only introducing the courses will not make any change, we need 3 to 4 armed guards onboard the vsl during GOA transit period to boost crew members moral and security reasons.

Every ship passing by the risk areas or so called No sail Zones to be escorted by Indian Navy. The expenses to be beared by concerned ShipOwner or Charterer. This is to be made mandatory by DG Shipping for ships with Indian Crew.

By attending a mere one more certificate course in any institute will not give us(sailing seafarers) any expertise to fight with pirates or to give any strength to undergo through rigrous mental , physical trauma neither it will reduce the suffering for our families too.

Just introducing another course is not end of story. How many courses we have to attend to maintain our jobs on board. In my view Only armed guards on board can provide highest security and boost moral of crew.

Indian seafarers should bluntly refuse to go on ships through the piracy affected area. If the stand is united there will be a solution soon.

instead of introducing more antipiracy courses,embark armed guards on those ships entering pirate infested areas,let the company or the charterer bear the expense as these sailors transit the expensive cargo and the ships,their life value also to be considered.

International Forums like UN have to tackle the root cause of this menace and start working on a Stable Government in Somalia. Stabilizing civil life in Somalia is an appropriate way to approach this issue. Strict reforms to deal with Pirates must be made mandatory for all Nations.

only professional arm guard can provide safety to the ships as transiting through gulf of aden, coast of somalia, indian ocean,arabian sea.

Let us invite the owner and the manning agents to take a ride on board while transiting GOA. Let them also know how it feels when your life is not in your control. The time for courses and seminars is over. Its time to act by force and act fast.

Only covert military action against Somalia can help reduce piracy as it exists today. Otherwise all mariners are sitting ducks when exposed to these brigands. God bless the sailors.

the only way to solve this problem is by making the company & the chater party to give the crew members armed gurds .And also all goverments should give a free hand to the navy to deal the with the pirates the indian navy is doing a good job

Need of the hour is to have armed guards on board,pep talks from owners and manning agents is not going to help.of late pirates started killing seafarers.

Attacking the pirates at the source is the only solution. Not more seminars and courses.

we already faced pirates attack with RPGs on our vessel on 20 th Nov 2010. Its very diffcult to escape fromt he situation. Sitting and giving lectures are very easy comparing with the handling the situation. Trainings and pressurising the seafarers are not the solution.

A very practical deterence is two rows of military grade RAZOR Wire rigged around the whole vessel,if the pirate gets caught in it-he will surely forget about being a pirate the next time.

vessels should must be guarded with armed guards while passing through GOA. instead of putting life of seafarers at risk if shipowners put some extra money in direct security measures it will be more helpful....

certificate course is not the soulution.it will make more money to institute. all ship must have arm sentires who have some back ground of marcos or naval gunnery sailor

This is very unfortunate to know that, in this industry every problem has only one solution and that is to add one more ceritification course, put additional reaponsibility on the seafarer and warm the benches in the most comfortable ambience at the office and not to forget, institutes make money.

Doing course will not help combatting piracy, will only benefit the training institutes . Should make regulations to man the vessel (partly )with armed forces while passing GOA and pirates affected area for the safety of the seafarer.

policing the seas is the responsibility of the state. we as seafarers can only play a minor role. our core area is to run the ship smoothly from point A to point B. Let the experts tackle this issue.the seafarer if attending the course will do it dutifully, to obtain, just another certificate.

Another method for institutes with the right contacts to make money and pass the buck to the seafarer. As if with ISPS,ISM, SOPEP, is not enough, add this to the basket that he has to shell out and take responsibility.

Its easy for a bunch of cowards warming their seats in institutes and offices to suggest seafarers to attend a course. Courses are not going to help those on board. Theoretical knowledge does not work in a war,practicals do.when the going gets tough these same guys will be hiding.

Placing armed guards while the vessel is in GOA can be tried. Naval escorts are doing a great job. Increased patrolling of the area would get better results.

the sailing brethen ashore find all sorts of opportunities to show their supermacy on fellow sailors.this is a big joke expecting sailors to combat armed pirates by attending a course .

contd. from last - it is impracticle to expect a merchant ship trying to nutrallise an armed attack, the sefarer can only blow the whistle, the efforts can achive the goal if a chopper with an armed forces can come to rescue with in a given time - sometimes the coalation ships only ack but no action

been through G.O.A. 4 times with terror of this risk in mind of literally everyone, have seen the speed boats with armed pirates approaching as close as 2 cables and then turning around at areas like approach to bab al mandab, ( they turned around only after the coalation warship responds) contd.

Only iron cuts iron. The pirates boarding can not be controlled because we have attended anti-piracy courses, the full area to be under naval concovey & bombard any small boat entering gulf of aden convoy zone so after naval survillence by surface & sattellite so reduction in piracy can be expected

I can see sailors future as security guards.Pity on surveyors,govts and owners.Old saying"may god save us" is ultimately true.People who dont have guts to sail are running institutes and companies and oftenly participate in seminars to create innovative ideas how to screw sailors.

Shipping Oil Companies which is making millions should contribute to a fund which gives money to military personnel and war ships which is patrolling in the GOA area.By this way they can request one or two navy countries which is most responsible to protect the shipping industry in GOA.

written procedure for handling the pirate attack should be added in sms and security plan. and also there should a muster list in the event of attack. equipment should be fitted at the ship side to injure the pirates. ships railings should modified to avoid pirates claiming.

Conducting seminars & taking views of surveyors of Govt of India will not provide concrete solution for such serious problem. surveyors are defined as "People who dont have confidence to sail" & by sitting in conference room they cannot visualize situation we face at sea.

Waste of time for seafarers ands pots of money for institutes.

Cnducting seminars will not give solution to piracy attacks. Its just a waste of time and money where different people come together with intention to have good tome, increase paper work and increase burden on examination candidates. At the end of the seminar they are back to square one.

this is just white wash, better to do some thing positive about this like providing one soldier with machine gun to pass the affected area or organised monitoring by the Navy or Coast Guard.

Everyone should start exercising their right to REFUSE to go to war zone areas, and DEMAND their relief prior to a GoA transit... that will make ship owners start taking our lives seriously. People, start reading your contracts... the CBA states that the employer HAS to give u the choice to offsign.

Good old days of shipping are over. now only paper work, discussions,seminars,courses with increased tensions and low output

all crap....nothing much will happen....yes we indians will surely increase our paperwork for our security.

Its a good idea to impart antipiracy training to seafarers, but solely depending on the seafarers will not solve the problem,instead providing security guards only for the antipiracy duties may solve the problem(Prevention is better than cure)

In the very interest and safety of seafarers,provision of security personals by the company, on board, whenever ships transit these pirates infested areas,will be the best solution.

the concerned government should take some action.

Whilst we pursue govt.and other agencies for suitable anti-piracy measures,self help is the best help.Armed guards need to be embarked by all ships prior entering pirate infested areas.

afterall seaafers have to fight against LMGs,SMGs,RPGs, with the fire hose and cargo claster, isnt it?

good idea to minimise the risk.put govt also in this picture.

already flourishing institutional industries can nourish along with some hidden beneficiaries and already burdend seamen can drain their pockets further and they get a certififate to fight armed pirates with bare hands. GOD SAVE THE SEAMEN !

what we as seafarers need is armed guards atleast 3-4 onboard whilst the vessel is in pirate infested waters, if the companies cant afford i think each seafarer can contribute their one days wages to pay for these guards.

not discuss how to minimize this issue,just overcome that is not much imp.company must be involved if any incide take place and give money without any doubt

what are you trying to explain,that you fight with hammers and crowbars against LMGs,SMGs,RPGs - its a great idea indeed!